Wednesday 7 October 2020

Letters to the Editor

will no doubt be full of budget comment for the next few days.

I managed to get my piece in before that but it will no doubt be swallowed up by comments from people concerned about the price of their next cup of takeaway coffee.

Here's my bit:

Scientists use language in order to think, to learn, and to teach. Without it they would not be able to function. They use the arts in order to develop their creativity. They do this even while they are unaware of doing it.
The best and most effective researchers are those that can ask questions like, "What if....?" and "How can I...?"
One reason Australia is falling behind is because educators have failed to acknowledge the importance of language, creativity and the arts in general.
Mathematicians need a high level of language just in order to understand a problem, let alone solve it or apply it to a situation. The same is true of physicists, chemists, engineers and all other scientists.
We therefore need people who understand something about our use of language and people who can use more than one language for more than commercial purposes. We need people who know where our present ideas have come from and how they are developing.
We need culturally literate people in order to have a scientifically literate workforce.
The role of a university is to teach these things and encourage the development of ideas. Universities should not be seen as job factories. They should not be seen as places to indoctrinate students in "politically correct" thinking or "desired outcomes". They need to be places where creative thought and a diversity of ideas is encouraged in all areas.
That will not happen under the current proposals.
 
The current proposals - which will almost certainly now be put  in place are that people should pay more for doing a degree  in  arts, languages and the like. They will pay much less to do a degree in the sciences, engineering, technology and the like. The idea is that this will prepare students for the world of work, that they will be trained and ready for employment. 
This is truly muddled thinking. It is not the role of a university to train people for employment. Universities are surely there to encourage people to think, to develop ideas. Yes, those ideas might be the life-saving drugs of the future but the people who develop them are going to be people who can imagine, dream, think and create. To do that you need to know more than the chemical formula for something. You need more than the capacity to read a sequence of DNA.
Ms W is currently being pressured at school. She has to make decisions shortly about the subjects she will do next year, decisions which will now be final. She is good at maths and science because she is a good all round student but she loves language and languages. Those are the things that set her alight with enthusiasm, "Do you know that there is a word for.... but we don't have it..." and "Doesn't this sound delicious....I can't say it like that in English." Still the school is saying she should think about maths and science, that she would learn to love it as she matures and recognises the value of it. No, I don't think so. There would never be that same spark of enthusiasm there.
I am trying not to influence her. Her father is trying not to influence her. Her late mother had spent time in Vanuatu and spoke quite fluent French. We have not raised that with her because she needs to make up her own mind. 
A friend in the UK, someone who  taught Spanish at university, has told her there is employment to be found if you know more than one language. 
I hope she will choose the thing she is so obviously enthusiastic about, that she will choose the sort of career she wants. Yes, she would no doubt do well in science but it won't be her choice. 
There will be other young people facing the same problem, many of them not particularly enthusiastic about anything. They will "choose" maths and science under pressure - but will they make the best scientists?
 






7 comments:

Anonymous said...

Dear Ms W.
Keep your options open - you should be able to take a language and some literature and some maths and some science (or similar). Do the things that excite you. But please don't write off science and maths and engineering as somehow non-creative or independent of language and communication.

I teach engineering - and my students include those who are taking engineering and arts together (things like engineering + philosophy, or engineering + japanese, or engineering + archaeology). They are among the best engineers - mostly because they are better able to bring information from different places together to make something which makes sense, and then argue their case and communicate it well.

all the best for what can't be an easy decision
Kate

Anonymous said...

I know the school and the system. This is the year that students do have to make a choice between science and the arts. They will still do both but less of one than the other. The brightest students are "encouraged" to take on two units of mathematics, physics, chemistry, computing and another science before any arts subjects, including English. It is wrong but it is not unusual.
Even if Ms W tells her teachers she wants to do law (and she well might given her father's occupation and her understanding of it) she will have pressure put on her to "consider science". Arts are seen as being for the less able students.
It is a very good school but they are under enormous pressure to produce "results" and get the girls into the sciences. There are many other schools in the same position. The current plans with the proposal to charge more than double for the arts are designed to pressure students into the sciences.
Kate, the students you mention would be among the best. They are the sort of students we need. Ms W may not want to do engineering but an understanding of maths or a science won't hurt her. I suspect she knows that. David T.

Jodiebodie said...

Great letter, Cat! I totally agree.
I also agree with the engineer's comment above.
Students need to be well rounded. Computer programming / coding might be seen as a science but it is not mutually exclusive with creativity - on the contrary!

I find it interesting that degrees in media, journalism and communications are humanities and yet one could describe the reliance of politicians and government on these three sectors as a symbiotic relationship. Why would politicians want to discourage study in these areas?

I know a university-aged student who was considering an introductory university course but is now reconsidering enrolment after the latest budget announcements - not only will some courses be too expensive but will any courses provide good educational value for money when the universities are shedding staff because of inadequate funding?

This is the same student who has been looking for paid employment since a summer holiday job ended. I hope the newly-announced targetted subsidy for employing 16 to 35 year olds provides an opportunity but if that doesn't work, there will be many young people like the one I know - condemned to poverty while they volunteer in the community for organisations very eager to exploit free labour.

Beryl Kingston said...

Spot on Cat.

Anonymous said...

Hello Everyone (and especially Kate)
I'm the person "Cat" calls MsW and I really, really love languages and I want to do them and not science. Science is okay and I really like bits of it but I don't feel the same way about it. I like Maths too but not the way I like languages. I do Maths and Science at school because I have to and because I know it is best to try all sorts of subjects. I know you have to have your own ideas to do well in science but mostly if I do that at school the teachers just tell me to concentrate on what I should be learning.
I do have a sort of maths hobby though. I like to do origami. It has taught me a lot about geometry I guess.
I don't usually read Cat's blog but she asks me if she can talk about me and I like it that Kate wrote that answer. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Hi MsW
Thanks for continuing on the conversation! I'm sorry that your teachers aren't encouraging of creativity in science - I wonder where they think science comes from in the first place.
The most important thing of all is learning how to learn, because that way you can teach yourself what you need to know. And I definitely know that "making" someone study something at the expense of something else they love is not sensible.

cheers,
Kate

Jodiebodie said...

We already have high levels of depression in our society - i wonder how that will rise when people are coerced to do subjects that are away from their natural aptitudes and interests. Surely a subject that you are keenly interested in, and for which you have a talent or aptitude, will lead to greater success in a career and greater petsonal fulfilment in life than persevering in an area that doesn't hold the same interest or motivation, all the while going through life wondering to oneself 'what if' you had chosen your first love. So much time on our lives is spent at work so it is important to choose a cater path that is true to yourself.